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25 March 2009 @ 01:09 am
 
http://dommesandsubs.com/sitebitch/

Why does Vina (D&S.COM) try to rent out her site bitch? Even for things such as taxi's, sessions, videos, etc?

A Woman should never have to pay for a submissive males (or any males) attention

"The bitch is available for a minimum of one hour at a starting rate of $25/hour. When You consider that the average taxi fare from McCarran Airport to a Strip hotel is $20 + tip, You can see that calling the bitch might be a better solution. Plus, the little bitch will carry Your bags, wait in line at check in for You, and give You a buzz on Your cell phone once he reaches the front of the line. You just swing over, check in, and then let him carry Your bags to the room. No need for tip, gas money, or any additional out of pocket expense. You pay Me a flat 25, and own the bitch for an hour."

"- Photography (Vanilla) - $25/Hour
- Photography (Fetish, No Face/Identity) - $40/Hour
- Photography (Fetish, Identifiable/With Face) - $100/Hour

- Video (Vanilla) - $35/Hour
- Video (Fetish, No Face/Identity) - $50/Hour
- Video (Fetish, Identifiable/With Face) - $150/Hour"

i don't get it, what makes her site bitch so "wanted"? any man would PAY to do take a Domme out, PAY to do a session, PAY to drive her around. Why do THEY have to pay him? Domme's are not this desperate right???
 
 
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(no subject) - [info]princessmeggerz on March 25th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
findommeaddict[info]findommeaddict on March 25th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
yeah i just dont get it???? i'm sure the profits would go to Vina...but if a Domme needs a tour guide, taxi driver, session, etc...she can find a free one that she can profit off of. the site bitch is nothing special, just popular.
perfection0640[info]princessangelx on March 25th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
It is her property. She can do what she pleases with him. Why not make extra cash off of him?
findommeaddict[info]findommeaddict on March 25th, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC)
but you as a Domme would pay for his services? how is it domination when you have to pay someone to be submissive to you?
perfection0640[info]princessangelx on March 25th, 2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
Your twisting the entire concept around.

Trustworthy slaves, when it comes to real time and meeting are hard to find. Not to mention the increase in crazy Domme hating fanatics. So if I was someone without a slave in Vegas to do those things for Me, why not have him do it if I was visiting? Someone is not paying him to be submissive to them, they are paying Vina for the borrowing of her property. Why would she send him out constantly for everyone that wanted him for free? She would not gain anything out of it, it would just take time away from him serving her.

If I was a Domme in a large tourist city and had a reliable slave such as him. I would probably do the same thing. Pimp him out to others. But then if a Domme I knew or was close with came into town they obviously wouldn't be obligated to pay for his services.

Edit: I am going to Vegas actually in a couple months. Who knows maybe I'll have him do all that. I am well known throughout this scene, I'm sure I could easily find quite a few boys willing to come get Me and do whatever I please and pay ME to have that chance. But then comes the issue of reliability, being trusted, and not some nut job stalker....

Edited at 2009-03-25 09:51 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
you have a valid point..but paying a slave for a session? (not taxi services and such)

perfection0640[info]princessangelx on March 25th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Well paying a slave for a "session" such as humiliation, etc. Then I think that is an entirely different story. Then that is just sad for the other "domme" involved, but if Vina can get other women to do that, then more power to her. But I do not see any mention of "sessions" like that above.

But if you are saying paying for his services does not make a Woman Dominant, such as paying for a taxi service, carrying bags, etc. Then how is paying a real taxi driver any different?

Shit she should have him purchase a limo and pimp him out that way, she would bank.
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
Cause good slaves are hard to find and her bitch is gorgeous and her supervision means he will actually do what he says. Do you know how many flakes are out there? There are way too many hater slave blogs lately.
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 09:51 pm (UTC)
most dommes have no sexual attraction to their slave so who cares if he is gorgeous?

most ladies on d&s are financial domination. paying someone to serve them doesnt make sense.
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 10:27 pm (UTC)
You know I'm starting to think findommeaddict is cashslave because he/you have such arbitrary rules on what a findomme should be. Vili is hot and many dommes have commented on it. It matters because dommes are human! Dommes are any fucking thing we want to be. There are no rules that you can say we break because we make the fucking rules. Got it???? Using losers is what we do and vili is being used and other dommes are participating in using him for a nominal fee. Being paid probably adds to his humiliation and other women gain from a safe and useful slave. I don't think you are a real slave! A real slave doesn't mouth off like this. He doesn't have opinions. He is told what to think, when to talk and when to pay. If you are a real slave you will delete this journal.
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 10:29 pm (UTC)
stop posting anonymous, if you are a real domme you will state your name.
(Anonymous) on March 25th, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
"Vili is hot and many dommes have commented on it. It matters because dommes are human!"

I would never pay for a slave, gorgeous or not. Sure it's nice to have an attractive submissive slave, but I don't think I'd pay for him either. I agree with Angel that R/T is hard to find, and $25/hr isn't bad (especially cause Id have other slaves pay for it), but no way in hell would I pay for a session!
perfection0640[info]princessangelx on March 25th, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
It is not paying for a session, but for his services to escort you from the airport to a hotel and carry your bags from what I gather. And no humiliation or worshiping is involved, so I wouldn't consider that a session.

Edited at 2009-03-25 11:07 pm (UTC)
findommeaddict[info]findommeaddict on March 25th, 2009 10:36 pm (UTC)
Not cash slave lol
[info]sgtjohnny2009 on March 26th, 2009 01:33 am (UTC)
Cash and I am P
For one Cash Slave not use the profile: i am P(*$^**.

Two: Though iam is sometimes interesting Cash Slave has a hard time understanding some of his writing.

Three: The writing style of Cash and I am are much different.

Four: Cash and Vini would not get along even though Cash likes Asian Women.

As for those who think that Cash and I am are the same. That number is probably only a few of the reliable and True Fin Dommes.
(Anonymous) on March 26th, 2009 02:20 am (UTC)
Re: Cash and I am P
sgtjohnny2009 = cash slave
(Anonymous) on March 26th, 2009 02:54 am (UTC)
2 rhetorical questions
What's up with this cashslave mass paranoia going on on LJ lately?

Why would anyone care what this woman does with her slaves?

You people need to get a life or end the one you have.

Frosty
vicious_vina[info]vicious_vina on March 26th, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)
(Sorry this will span two comments... but I tend to get a little wordy... lol)

Glad to see My recent "Change in policy" regarding pimping out vili has caused some discussion. And for what it's worth, the whole rationale behind the concept is that the site growth has necessitated placing some limits on the "Free" use of My property for visiting Dommes. This month alone, vili has been of use to four different visiting Dommes from the site and spent a total of ten days (and roughly $800 of "his" money) outside of My supervision assisting Them with various things around town. I have no qualms about any Domme using My property, but the sheer amount of use has increased exponentially since last year, and inasmuch as another Domme using My property deprives Me of being able to do so, I have decided to ask for a nominal fee to cover what I "lose" when he is out and about town and not working on My projects and wishes.


I respect the opinion that, "A Woman should never have to pay for a submissive males (or any males) attention" but would you not agree that a Woman should compensate another Woman fairly should She use something that belongs to Her? If I owned a dungeon/studio and charged Dommes a fee to use it would that be inappropriate? How about if I offered My boat to Dommes who visited town and wanted to head out on Lake Mead? So how is it any different to offer another piece of My property (in this case My bitch) to any Domme who may want to make use of him while in town?


Frankly, I am a "Capitalist" as much as I am a Domme and while I appreciate that Dommes shouldn't pay for a boy's attention, I also realize that many are happy to pay a small fee for quality. I "pimp" the bitch to do web design and graphic work for other Dommes as well, and while once again most Dommes can find plenty of willing and eager "Web Slaves" you would be amazed to find out that Most I have spoken to would prefer to pay a small amount and have quality work done by a 100% reliable bitch who does as told as opposed to dealing with the hassles of over-promising and under-delivering that are commonplace with online pets and random submissives.


I have no need to force anyone to rent My bitch, nor do I care that much if anyone does. I just realize that My property has inherent value, and when he is out and about town playing and tending to other Dommes, I am losing the benefit of that value. Inasmuch as that is the case, I decided to ask those who wish to use him, to make a nominal payment to Me to cover My costs in having him outside of My specific control.
vicious_vina[info]vicious_vina on March 26th, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)



And finally, I won't get into how oversimplified your assertions that a Domme can find a subbie in town to exploit are, but frankly, I think any Domme would have a hard time flying into Vegas and finding a reliable subbie who can drop 100% of his schedule (My bitch is self employed and can be available 24 hours a day if need be), taxi Her anywhere She wants, carry on "normal and vanilla" conversations if She is with friends outside the scene, not appear out of place anywhere, and generally be exactly what is asked for and demanded without a ridiculously exhaustive search and weeding through a litany of idiots, wankers, and posers in the interim. So I instead offer a "Fully Guaranteed" little bitch for a nominal amount and assure any Domme in town They will be completely happy with his service. So while a Domme may be able to find a boy on Her own, I think there is plenty of "market" for a high quality and versatile rental bitch with as many talents and uses as Mine and I don't think that Dommes will take exception to the nominal fee associated with taking ownership of My property for the time They are in town.


All in all, Those who wish to use him will, and Those that don't, won't. And on those occasions when visiting Dommes get in touch with Me and We are all out partying, or drinking, or having a great time, We will All make use of the bitch however We see fit. So if Princess Angel wants to grab some drinks and have a night out in town when She arrives in a few months, I'll happily provide the taxi, drink fetcher, late night foot masseuse, and whatever else We decide to make of My bitch free of charge. If We discuss things prior to Her arrival, it is plenty likely that he'll pick Her up at the airport, bring Her to Her hotel, get Her checked in, then driver Her to My home where he'll cook dinner and fix drinks and wait on Us hand and foot until We decide to go out that night, at which point he will play taxi bitch again and remain a good sober little designated driver to take Us wherever We like (and to get rid of freaks and oddities that accost Us in clubs) until We decide We have had enough to call it a night. Anytime I am out with Dommes in town, whether shopping, grabbing coffee, or partying it up, the bitch will be there and available for All to use freely. The only thing that has changed is that use of, or borrowing of the bitch without Me around to join in the fun or exploitation will be looked at more as a "rental of property" than as a "free gift" I give to every Domme visiting town.

Regards,

~V
(Anonymous) on March 26th, 2009 03:00 am (UTC)
I can't imagine anyone reading these blocks of text you pounded out over this non issue. I hope for your slave's sake you aren't as boring as you seem.

Frosty
(no subject) - [info]princessmeggerz on March 26th, 2009 03:04 am (UTC)
vicious_vina[info]vicious_vina on March 26th, 2009 04:37 am (UTC)
Hey Meg,

He's on the site at:

http://www.dommesandsubs.com/vilified

And there is a forum post here:

http://dommesandsubs.com/forum/posts/id_467

From the last session We had with him playing when PSSF was in town... I'm not sure he would be described as "gorgeous" but compared to much of what runs around in the world subbies he tends to the more attractive end of the bell curve...



Ms Naomi Katana[info]hypnozentric on May 1st, 2009 03:04 am (UTC)
The practice of "renting out" one's submissive to other Dominants has been done in the real time lifestyle community for a very long time. I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
 

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